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flybuy





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Thanks for the info guys. Big help. How long do you go before having to add wood after u start with charcoal and get up to cooking temp.
My main reason for making charcoal basket was to try to get a longer burn time without having to add wood every 30 minutes.
I have discovered that there are a lot of leaks around cooker door. So I am loosing a lot of heat.
I am new to using a stick burner as u can tell I am sure. Been using a big green egg for several years and got use to very long burn times.
Going to try smoking chuck roast tomorrow and will give your method a try and see if it will work for me. I think I am going to have to get a tighter seal on my cooker door which will help get a longer burn time.
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flybuy wrote:
Thanks for the info guys. Big help. How long do you go before having to add wood after u start with charcoal and get up to cooking temp.
My main reason for making charcoal basket was to try to get a longer burn time without having to add wood every 30 minutes.
I have discovered that there are a lot of leaks around cooker door. So I am loosing a lot of heat.
I am new to using a stick burner as u can tell I am sure. Been using a big green egg for several years and got use to very long burn times.
Going to try smoking chuck roast tomorrow and will give your method a try and see if it will work for me. I think I am going to have to get a tighter seal on my cooker door which will help get a longer burn time.



Flybuy: I have to add a small amount of fuel (either wood or lump) every 35 or 40 minutes and it depends on the conditions (dry & hot or windy & cold). When I cook it's an event -- in other words, I give my total attention to the cook. Smoking is one of the reasons lounge chairs and beer were invented!! Adding fuel just goes with smoking. I monitor my temp and when I see it starting to drop I add fuel.

I might have a easy fix for you cook chamber leak. On my unit both latches don't connect with the "V" latch. They just flop into the "V". They don't do anything but look nice. For a quick fix, insert a thin washer or thin piece of metal in the "V" of both latches and then close the latches. You might have to fool around with different thickness of metal to get the right fit. What you're doing is "shimming" the latch -- even a thin piece of wood would work. The leak opening is very small so you only need a little pressure on the latch to close it up. Give it a try and see if it works.

Good luck with your roast cook today.

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Started with 3/4 basket royal oak lump this morning. It last about hour and a half before I had to add more. Is that about right? I had to slide basket out to add wood every time so I ended up just taking basket out. I think I need to modify my basket. It sets to close to top, there is not enough room to get wood in with basket all the way in.
The strips welded on my door do not fit flush with cooking chamber. Bottom strip is bowed out in center, and at edge where it is welded to vertical strip coming down ,it is about 3/16 to
1/8  down to far so it holds door out to far. Not an easy fix. Will have to cut it loose and reweld.Since I am a welder by trade it is doable.   Only draw back i can't see to weld very good anymore. Getting old. Lol. May give it a try one of these days though. Again thanks for your help!!
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flybuy wrote:
Started with 3/4 basket royal oak lump this morning. It last about hour and a half before I had to add more. Is that about right? I had to slide basket out to add wood every time so I ended up just taking basket out. I think I need to modify my basket. It sets to close to top, there is not enough room to get wood in with basket all the way in.
The strips welded on my door do not fit flush with cooking chamber. Bottom strip is bowed out in center, and at edge where it is welded to vertical strip coming down ,it is about 3/16 to
1/8  down to far so it holds door out to far. Not an easy fix. Will have to cut it loose and reweld.Since I am a welder by trade it is doable.   Only draw back i can't see to weld very good anymore. Getting old. Lol. May give it a try one of these days though. Again thanks for your help!!



Flybuy: You got good burn time with your load but removing the basket is a pain and you're losing heat. Go to "show us your pictures" and go down 15 topics to "charcoal basket for Lang 36" to see how the lowered front of my basket allows me to add fuel without removing the basket.

Since your lid will require re-welding, maybe you could try using the alum foil in the meantime. I really didn't want to dis-mantel my unit and re-weld so I filled the gap with a thin piece of metal.

As a welder, what's your professional opinion of the welding on your unit and how could the welding of your cook chamber be less than perfect? I mean what did the welder do wrong and what should he have done to avoid the problem?

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Wood River BBQ Team wrote:
flybuy wrote:
Started with 3/4 basket royal oak lump this morning. It last about hour and a half before I had to add more. Is that about right? I had to slide basket out to add wood every time so I ended up just taking basket out. I think I need to modify my basket. It sets to close to top, there is not enough room to get wood in with basket all the way in.
The strips welded on my door do not fit flush with cooking chamber. Bottom strip is bowed out in center, and at edge where it is welded to vertical strip coming down ,it is about 3/16 to
1/8  down to far so it holds door out to far. Not an easy fix. Will have to cut it loose and reweld.Since I am a welder by trade it is doable.   Only draw back i can't see to weld very good anymore. Getting old. Lol. May give it a try one of these days though. Again thanks for your help!!



Flybuy: You got good burn time with your load but removing the basket is a pain and you're losing heat. Go to "show us your pictures" and go down 15 topics to "charcoal basket for Lang 36" to see how the lowered front of my basket allows me to add fuel without removing the basket.

Since your lid will require re-welding, maybe you could try using the alum foil in the meantime. I really didn't want to dis-mantel my unit and re-weld so I filled the gap with a thin piece of metal.

As a welder, what's your professional opinion of the welding on your unit and how could the welding of your cook chamber be less than perfect? I mean what did the welder do wrong and what should he have done to avoid the problem?


Wood River I Took a look at your basket. Good idea of cutting front down to make room for wood. I guess I will modify mine next week.
As far as welds on my smoker they are pretty good. All welding done with mig welder. Problem with mine isn't the welds its how metal was fitted before welding.
With that being said after I got done with my cook this afternoon I took a closer look at what it will take to fix mine. Right side of bottom will have to be cut loose and straightened and rewelded. Left side just needs some grinding where weld was not ground smooth. All the way across the bottom edge will need a gasket to make a good seal. This will be the easiest fix. Gasket that is used on Egg cooker will work for that I think. I may us gasket material all the way around cooker door.
By the way chuck roast turned out great!! Used How TO BBQ Right recipe
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I have an issue with leaks around my cooking chamber door also so I went to Lowes and got some silicone window weather-stripping that has a self adhesive on one side and cut and stuck it around the inside lip of the door and that took care of 90 percent of the leaks.  The only problem is that the lip on the top of the door is so narrow that there is not enough to put any of the weather-stripping  there so I still get a little smoke leaking from there.  I cooked with it one time so far since I did that and the stuff held up to that.  I will let you know how long it holds up so you will know if that is feasible or not for your setup.  I have read other posts on other forums of some people using Nomex on their doors which I will look into if this does not last very long.

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