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Shoeman

Looking to upgrade & Need your feedback

Looking for some feedback form Lang owners and those who have owned other smokers.  I have an inexpensive Chargriller offset which has done well for me.  I'd like to upgrade to a better heavier smoker.  I've looked at the Meadow Creeks, the Langs, and Traeger.  I'm just looking for some feed back to help make a choice.  I have a friend who has a Traeger and it does quite well and is easy to use.  If anyone has used any of these or is willing to just give me your opinion on smokers it would be much appreciated.

Thanks
icemanrrc

Re: Looking to upgrade & Need your feedback

Welcome aboard!!!
I was in the EXACT same position you are in now. I had a Chargriller Super Pro with the side fire box (same as Smokin Pro) and I had a Weber Smokey Mountain. I was using both of them with a BBQ Guru DigiQ. I had modded my Chargriller by lowering chimney to almost grate level, installed two professional calibrated thermometers on each end at grate level, insulated the main chamber with oven braid, insulated firebox with UTV sealant and made a charcoal shaker basket. Even with all those mods and attaching a BBQ Guru, I still felt like I was capable of making better BBQ. Don't get me wrong, making all of those mods did help and I did have some fine BBQ, but I really wanted to up my game. That is why I sold both my Chargriller and WSM and got the Lang 36 1/4" steel version. You will be surprised at how just changing style smokers and fuel type will make such a huge difference in your BBQ. I use straight wood for fuel now after using charcoal with wood chunks added with my Chargriller and WSM. Straight wood coal makes better BBQ. Then when you combine that with the reverse flow process that the Lang delivers, you get better heat distribution and the smoke and heat draws evenly over your meat, creating some of the best BBQ you have put in your mouth. I made an adapter for my Lang so I could still use my BBQ Guru to help keep the temps at a steady temperature, but I don't use it anymore as the Lang keeps temps great just the way it is. I just throw a log on every 40 minutes and the temps never move.
I looked at other brands of steel smokers like Horizon in addition to the ones you mentioned. Most of them were way more expensive and I didn't see the workmanship that I saw in the Lang, plus they weren't reverse flow either.
You can't go wrong with a Lang. You will love it! Let me or anyone else here in the Lang smoker community know if you have any other questions. We are all here to give a hand. You won't find a better group of folks around who are more than willing to give advice and a helping hand.
I hope this helps.
Rusty Cooke
Villa Rica, GA

Shoeman wrote:
Looking for some feedback form Lang owners and those who have owned other smokers.  I have an inexpensive Chargriller offset which has done well for me.  I'd like to upgrade to a better heavier smoker.  I've looked at the Meadow Creeks, the Langs, and Traeger.  I'm just looking for some feed back to help make a choice.  I have a friend who has a Traeger and it does quite well and is easy to use.  If anyone has used any of these or is willing to just give me your opinion on smokers it would be much appreciated.

Thanks
animal

We have all started with other smokers, I have a New Braunfels, a ECB and a Gas Hollow #5. They all sit Idle now. I can hold temps better and reverse flow is the way to go. even temps across the cooking area, I can cook with different woods for different flavor profiles  for different meats. I don't have to buy over priced hockey pucks or pellets to use for fuel. A friend of mine has a Chargriller, we did all of the mods to make it useable and after 2 years  using it he bought a Lang 48 Deluxe last fall and he loves it.

Buy a Lang
Shoeman

Re: Looking to upgrade & Need your feedback

Thanks a lot icemanrrc for the feed back it did help.  I with you I've made some "mods" to my Chargriller as well.   I agree, I've done well, but think I can up my game with a better smoker.  My wife and I would like to maybe do a festival or two this year or next, and maybe a comp later down the road.  Thanks again for your help.

icemanrrc wrote:
Welcome aboard!!!
I was in the EXACT same position you are in now. I had a Chargriller Super Pro with the side fire box (same as Smokin Pro) and I had a Weber Smokey Mountain. I was using both of them with a BBQ Guru DigiQ. I had modded my Chargriller by lowering chimney to almost grate level, installed two professional calibrated thermometers on each end at grate level, insulated the main chamber with oven braid, insulated firebox with UTV sealant and made a charcoal shaker basket. Even with all those mods and attaching a BBQ Guru, I still felt like I was capable of making better BBQ. Don't get me wrong, making all of those mods did help and I did have some fine BBQ, but I really wanted to up my game. That is why I sold both my Chargriller and WSM and got the Lang 36 1/4" steel version. You will be surprised at how just changing style smokers and fuel type will make such a huge difference in your BBQ. I use straight wood for fuel now after using charcoal with wood chunks added with my Chargriller and WSM. Straight wood coal makes better BBQ. Then when you combine that with the reverse flow process that the Lang delivers, you get better heat distribution and the smoke and heat draws evenly over your meat, creating some of the best BBQ you have put in your mouth. I made an adapter for my Lang so I could still use my BBQ Guru to help keep the temps at a steady temperature, but I don't use it anymore as the Lang keeps temps great just the way it is. I just throw a log on every 40 minutes and the temps never move.
I looked at other brands of steel smokers like Horizon in addition to the ones you mentioned. Most of them were way more expensive and I didn't see the workmanship that I saw in the Lang, plus they weren't reverse flow either.
You can't go wrong with a Lang. You will love it! Let me or anyone else here in the Lang smoker community know if you have any other questions. We are all here to give a hand. You won't find a better group of folks around who are more than willing to give advice and a helping hand.
I hope this helps.
Rusty Cooke
Villa Rica, GA

Shoeman wrote:
Looking for some feedback form Lang owners and those who have owned other smokers.  I have an inexpensive Chargriller offset which has done well for me.  I'd like to upgrade to a better heavier smoker.  I've looked at the Meadow Creeks, the Langs, and Traeger.  I'm just looking for some feed back to help make a choice.  I have a friend who has a Traeger and it does quite well and is easy to use.  If anyone has used any of these or is willing to just give me your opinion on smokers it would be much appreciated.

Thanks
Shoeman

Thanks for the feedback Animal, that's the one I'm looking at is the Lang 48 deluxe.  I've read a lot about them and have been all over the internet over the past year researching smokers.  As I'm sure you know it's overwhelming.  Thanks again for your feedback.  

animal wrote:
We have all started with other smokers, I have a New Braunfels, a ECB and a Gas Hollow #5. They all sit Idle now. I can hold temps better and reverse flow is the way to go. even temps across the cooking area, I can cook with different woods for different flavor profiles  for different meats. I don't have to buy over priced hockey pucks or pellets to use for fuel. A friend of mine has a Chargriller, we did all of the mods to make it useable and after 2 years  using it he bought a Lang 48 Deluxe last fall and he loves it.

Buy a Lang
icemanrrc

Re: Looking to upgrade & Need your feedback

You're welcome bud. Anytime!!!!!!! Great smokin to ya!

Shoeman wrote:
Thanks a lot icemanrrc for the feed back it did help.  I with you I've made some "mods" to my Chargriller as well.   I agree, I've done well, but think I can up my game with a better smoker.  My wife and I would like to maybe do a festival or two this year or next, and maybe a comp later down the road.  Thanks again for your help.

icemanrrc wrote:
Welcome aboard!!!
I was in the EXACT same position you are in now. I had a Chargriller Super Pro with the side fire box (same as Smokin Pro) and I had a Weber Smokey Mountain. I was using both of them with a BBQ Guru DigiQ. I had modded my Chargriller by lowering chimney to almost grate level, installed two professional calibrated thermometers on each end at grate level, insulated the main chamber with oven braid, insulated firebox with UTV sealant and made a charcoal shaker basket. Even with all those mods and attaching a BBQ Guru, I still felt like I was capable of making better BBQ. Don't get me wrong, making all of those mods did help and I did have some fine BBQ, but I really wanted to up my game. That is why I sold both my Chargriller and WSM and got the Lang 36 1/4" steel version. You will be surprised at how just changing style smokers and fuel type will make such a huge difference in your BBQ. I use straight wood for fuel now after using charcoal with wood chunks added with my Chargriller and WSM. Straight wood coal makes better BBQ. Then when you combine that with the reverse flow process that the Lang delivers, you get better heat distribution and the smoke and heat draws evenly over your meat, creating some of the best BBQ you have put in your mouth. I made an adapter for my Lang so I could still use my BBQ Guru to help keep the temps at a steady temperature, but I don't use it anymore as the Lang keeps temps great just the way it is. I just throw a log on every 40 minutes and the temps never move.
I looked at other brands of steel smokers like Horizon in addition to the ones you mentioned. Most of them were way more expensive and I didn't see the workmanship that I saw in the Lang, plus they weren't reverse flow either.
You can't go wrong with a Lang. You will love it! Let me or anyone else here in the Lang smoker community know if you have any other questions. We are all here to give a hand. You won't find a better group of folks around who are more than willing to give advice and a helping hand.
I hope this helps.
Rusty Cooke
Villa Rica, GA

Shoeman wrote:
Looking for some feedback form Lang owners and those who have owned other smokers.  I have an inexpensive Chargriller offset which has done well for me.  I'd like to upgrade to a better heavier smoker.  I've looked at the Meadow Creeks, the Langs, and Traeger.  I'm just looking for some feed back to help make a choice.  I have a friend who has a Traeger and it does quite well and is easy to use.  If anyone has used any of these or is willing to just give me your opinion on smokers it would be much appreciated.

Thanks
BBQ Bandit

Been happy with my past and present Langs. Yes, plural... as in more than one.

The only problem was trying to buy the right size.  Shocked
http://lang.myfreeforum.org/about175.html

The questions you should be asking yourself are:
1. Do you want to learn the science and old school art of authentic woodburning bbq?
2. If so... that will involve fire management skills on a regular basis often.


If the above two statements are not in agreement... would not recommend a Lang.


If you desire something that is more regulated, efficient/longer burn:
1. An Ugly Drum Smoker (UDS)
2. A Weber Smokey Mountain  (WSM)
3. A Treager
4. An insulated vertical cooker (Big Green Egg, Primo, Bubba Keg, etc.)
PorkQPine

Re: Looking to upgrade & Need your feedback

Shoeman wrote:
Looking for some feedback form Lang owners and those who have owned other smokers.  I have an inexpensive Chargriller offset which has done well for me.  I'd like to upgrade to a better heavier smoker.  I've looked at the Meadow Creeks, the Langs, and Traeger.  I'm just looking for some feed back to help make a choice.  I have a friend who has a Traeger and it does quite well and is easy to use.  If anyone has used any of these or is willing to just give me your opinion on smokers it would be much appreciated.

Thanks


The question is too broad.  What do you want to use the smoker for, how often will you be using it and how many people will you typically cook for? Are you willing to feed an offet or do you want to set it and forget it?  My suggestion is to go to a few BBQ competitions and ask around and see them in action.
rollingbbq

Re: Looking to upgrade & Need your feedback

I am at the same crossroads. I just built a double stacked 55 gallon drum reverse flow smoker. It does work very well, but need to upgrade before spring comes and the parties start. I'm leaning towards the 48 or 60. Problem is I'm so far way from where to pick it up and the shipping costs are high. I live on Long Island, NY. Meadow Creek is 3-4 hours from me, but rather have the  Lang based on what everyone is posting here. Any other advise you could give me or opinions, would be appreciated. Thanks all.
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Wood River BBQ Team

Rollingbbq: You're right that shipping cost is a factor but that's the way it goes if a mate wants to buy a professional grade smoker. With your close proximity to Ga the cost may not be as high as you think. A 48 or 60 is heavier than my 36 but my shipping cost from Ga to Tucson, with 7 day delivery was $415 -- 3 or 4 day delivery would have been over $700. Additionally, an offset is your saving on sales tax. When I decided to make the purchase, I just had to suck it up from a total cost standpoint and then forget about it.

I considered the Horizon smoker, but after having to add the reverse flow accesssories, which I wouldn't be without, it cost more than the Lang but the shipping from Oklahome to Tucson would have been less. Even if the total price for both units was the same I'd have purchased the Lang. My only mistake was not purchasing the deluxe with the grill!! I've mentioned it a couple of times to my wife that I might sell the 36 patio and upgrade but she goes into orbit so I'll stick with what I have -- maybe!!

If you decide to purchase the Lang, get back on this forum as some of us have some shipping experience and contacts we can share with you.

Don Gillette
Wood River BBQ Team

BBQ Bandit: I've been waiting for you to pop up on the forum. I built a copy of your charcoal basket for my Lang 36 and it works great especially the front portion, which makes it easy to add fuel. The original basket I built, before I saw yours, was the same height on all 4 sides and it was difficult adding fuel. Thank for the great idea.
rollingbbq

Can you send me pics of your basket please. rollingbbq@optimum.net          thank you.
Wood River BBQ Team

rollingbbq: Go to "show Your Pictures" and go down to the 3rd topic "charcoal Basket For Lang 36" and there it is.

Don G
rollingbbq

Very nice.. Thanks for your help..
DBA1954

I've had my 36" patio for a few weeks and it took a while to 'adjust' to the shipping cost before I pulled the trigger on it, They were about $550 to Buffalo. If you want to do competion then a trailer unit is better, and you could easily pick it up. I started with a gas/water smoker, then to a electric cookshack and now the Lang. I have to tell you the Lang taste wise tops them all. It is a lot of work managing the temps/ fire box but getting easier.

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