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Hogs

36?...48??

Howdy folks. I have had all I can stand of my wally world smoker and I have decided on a Lang but, which one? I was wondering if the 36 deluxe has all the same construction as the 48 Deluxe? I think I seen a video somewhere about both the 36 and 48 and I assumed the 36 was made of lighter material. I know the 36 will be lighter just because of it's physical size but, Is it made of thinner material?

Then I seen on here they got a 36 stretch...I wonder what the difference is between the stretch and the standard 36? And, how they differ from the standard 48 Deluxe. Is the 36 stretch available in the deluxe model?

After much research I just decided on the Lang. As you can see I have a couple of questions, I thought I would ask here before I gave them a call.

I was thinking about picking mine up at the factory but, that's a two day trip for me and I was wondering how the delivery worked out for some of you guys. I don't know if I could save a few dollars by picking it up myself or not.

Thanks
KevinWI

I've done lots and lots of reading and research on Langs and never heard stretch. They have a 36 hybrid, which is twice as long because it has a 36" smoker and a 36" grill side by side. Looks stretched..lol...and comes deluxe.

But to further say that in all my research, the 36" and 48" are the same material thickness ....1/4" rolled steel....larger unit, more weight. Firebox is 1" larger in each dimension...17X17 vs 18x18 on the 48".

I'm getting the 48" patio Deluxe....I don't need that large but if I ever cook for a a few more folks than normal, I want the extra room.  Just my own thinking.
Hogs

Thanks Kevin...I read about the stretch on here, about 6 or 8 threads down from the top, I think. They don't say anything about it on the website.

I plan on getting the deluxe model also, be it a 36 or 48??? Another decision I guess.

Thanks
Midwest Freak

all ways go one size bigger because if you do not one day you will regret it .  Razz
KevinWI

I was totally wrong I see now that I see the post you referred to...looks like he took the tube for the 36 hybrid and made it a single smoker....not as high and deep as the 48, but a little longer than the 60?....just from watching the video.....interesting....
Wood River BBQ Team

Hogs: My shipping cost from Ga to Tucson was about $425 for 7 day and over $700 if I wanted 3 to 4 day -- I used 7 day. Guys on this forum have used a variety of ways to ship their units and hopefully they'll chime in with their suggestions.

I used Jesse Ballentine (904 527-3902 ext 222) at JZ Explogistics. My cooker went from Ga, through Tucson to LA, then back to Phoenix, then to Tucson and finally to my home. During the entire trip, the only person who knew where my load was located was Jesse. Once the unit leaves the Lang facility, I think they're out of it and they have no idea where it is. I knew who the various trucking companies were and half of them didn't know where my unit was at any given time BUT Jesse knew and kept me informed. One company told me it was in Phoenix when actually it was sitting on a loading dock in Tucson!!

In my case, the cooker was shipped LTF (less than full load). In other words, it just a piece of freight mixed in with a bunch of other stuff.

Anyway, it ain't like tracking a package from Amazon with tracking numbers. If I were to upgrade from a Lang 36, which I might, I'd use Jesse again.

Don G
KevinWI

Got my quotes. From Jesse my quote for my 48D patio was $620 and I have to go pick it up at a transport hub.

Lang quoted me $550 for the same unit.
DBA1954

definitely go for the 48". I bought a 36" patio in October ... and I love it but it's a little cramped. It might be different if the bottom shelf slid out but it doesn't.. only the top.  In hind site I wish I had gone for the 48. That being said ... it's an incredible smoker.
BigGus

I went back and forth for a while between the 36 and 48, I decided on the 48 deluxe. Most of the time the 36 would have been enough but the 8 to 10 times a year I would need something bigger. I also decided to go with it on a trailer. Now it will be easy to transport to family or friends houses.
In the next week or so I'm taking the trip down there with a couple friends to pick it up. When it's all said and done going to get it may end up being a few dollars more than having it shipped, but the trip will be well worth it.
Hogs

Thanks to you all for the good information...I think I'll make it a vacation while picking it up. Maybe go to the beach and swing back by and pick it up on the way home...that way the shipping is FREE.    

I also took your all's advice and thought I would just get the 48 and be done with it...until I compared prices between the two (36 verses 48 ), approximately 800.00 difference, the total cost of a 36 patio is just 1,100.00 to begin with (I can't believe I just said just looking back 40yrs.) and for only 12 inches more it cost 800.00? It seems to me, that's a lot, considering there is only 12 inches difference in material and not a lot more labor involved. Is the diameter of the two the same? Is the fire box smaller? I don't want to sound like a "Butt" but, I don't understand. Both are considered "Patio" models, if they were considered commercial/competition models I could understand it better.

Please don't take what I have said the wrong way, I think the Lang smoker is probably the best on the market. Believe me I have researched quality smokers extensively all things considered.
KevinWI

I believe it comes out to about 432 sq in of cooking surface area difference.
Wood River BBQ Team

Hogs: Let me coment on what I do know. The fire box on the 36 is 17X17 and the fire box on the 48 is 18X18. The 48 is bigger than the 36 so you need a bigger fire box.

ALL Langs are constructed of 1/4" plate steel. They make 2 models -- trailer mounted and non trailer. They call the non trailer model a PATIO because that's where it's designed to be used. Both are constructed identically.

Rest assured every Lang model is a commercial/competition grade cooker.

What I don't know is the diameter of the 48 cook chamber. The diameter of the 36 is 20.5" and it's 36.5" long.

We all had the same questions and concerns you are experiencing -- it's a big $$$ purchase which you're buying sight unseen.

Don G

Hogs wrote:
Thanks to you all for the good information...I think I'll make it a vacation while picking it up. Maybe go to the beach and swing back by and pick it up on the way home...that way the shipping is FREE.    

I also took your all's advice and thought I would just get the 48 and be done with it...until I compared prices between the two (36 verses 48 ), approximately 800.00 difference, the total cost of a 36 patio is just 1,100.00 to begin with (I can't believe I just said just looking back 40yrs.) and for only 12 inches more it cost 800.00? It seems to me, that's a lot, considering there is only 12 inches difference in material and not a lot more labor involved. Is the diameter of the two the same? Is the fire box smaller? I don't want to sound like a "Butt" but, I don't understand. Both are considered "Patio" models, if they were considered commercial/competition models I could understand it better.

Please don't take what I have said the wrong way, I think the Lang smoker is probably the best on the market. Believe me I have researched quality smokers extensively all things considered.
KevinWI

bottom rack of the 48 is 22.25 inches, so would guess diameter somewhere near 24"
Hogs

Thanks again guy's....I sure hope everyone understands my concern...I am a good feller Smile

yes, I can understand a larger fire box to accommodate a larger cooking chamber...and Kevin you're right, if the bottom rack is 22 1/4, the diameter must be something near 24 inches, well, it's sounding better. I just need to give them a call, I thought they were probably closed today.

Yep, I'm an old guy that hasn't bought anything without looking it over first, kinda like buying a pig in a poke, so to speak. I also said to myself "it's hard to justify that kind of money for just a grill" but, I quit trying to justify my toys a long time ago. Keep your priorities in order and go for it, you only live once. And, in this case, one of my son's can have it when I'm gone.

Thanks again  Very Happy
jsk404

Hogs, I don't think you have to worry about buying a Lang. As most people have said about doing research, I to took 6 months to find, research, and finally order my Lang. I odered a 36" patio with a few mods on Dec 20th, AHH Yes the wait  Confused . Any way, I literally have searched for a bad review of a Lang and only found one negitive review which was from a competitor which was more expensive and made from lighter gauge material, so I am certain this will be a top notch smoker. As for pricing just take a ride to Home Depot and look at the prices of some of their gas grills and look at the material use on those.
As far as the $800 difference from the 36" to 48" it could be a number of things. Might be additional material, the time it takes to form a larger peice of steel, welding time, ect. some people may not understand the manufacturing process and whats involved. I myself opted for the 36" because I'll be cooking for 4, well at least till the neighbors start poking their heads over the fence  Shocked .
bluzieq

I just got my 36 a couple weeks ago. I went thru jz(jesse).365.00 to arkansas to a dock. 2 days. The 36 will get small in a hurry. I put mine and another smoker on a 4*6 trailer.its very heavy. Most of it on firebox end. Two things  I would do different. Get the 48. And if you ever going to put it on a trailer,save up and get one on a trailer from lang. And anything you may read on some forums about  being crude, bad welds,etc...not true. Very well made,very clean welds. They will also do anything to it. Mine has no prep area.I am adding my own stainless steel I hope.

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