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BayouRouge

36 Patio mobility

Have anyone modified  the cart to make it easier to load a 36 Patio into a trailer? I am not sure if the wagon tongue / 8" front tires option offered by Lang is the best or less expensive.

I want to be able to load into a cargo trailer with a rear ramp door.

Any comments on making it easier to load or move about on the ground is appreciated.
Eddie Z

Have you loaded it on the trailer before? The casters roll pretty good on a solid surface. Only thing I can think of would be to hook up a winch or come along to pull it up the ramp.
BayouRouge

I just ordered it. Waiting!!!!
Lang told me that a small winch would be good to load and unload with. They said others have done that and it seems to be safer.

As of now I plan to get it and try it to see how difficult it is but I know I will always be looking for a way to make it easier and less strain. I am not getting any younger.

Those trailer dollies may work with some attachment mods.
Wood River BBQ Team

Once I got my unit from the backyard to the street, getting it on the trailer was easy either with a small winch by myself or with a couple of guys pushing it. My problem was getting it the 150' to the street. My landscape is all gravel and the steel wheels just dig into the gravel. I have to use sheets of plywood.

Pneumatic tires would have been the solution but I didn't know they were available. I understand that accessory is $500, which Ii would have paid but it's too late now.

I can't mess with it for a couple of weeks but I might have a solution. The steel wheels are 4" or maybe 5". Harbor Freight sells a 4" and a 5" rubber heavy duty swivel caster. I think I can remove the steel wheel and insert the 4' or 5" wheels. I might have to mess with it to get it to work. Anything will be an improvement over the steel wheels and the cost for 2 casters is less than $20, which is a long way from $500.  Another way might be to mount the 5" caster with "U" bolts each time I want to move it, which isn't very often.

Any ideas you guys might have will be appreciated.
BayouRouge

I agree that larger pneumatic tires on the front would help. When my pit comes in I plan to look at the options of casters like the HF 8 inch swivel. It depends on how to attach to the cart frame. I am also looking at the trailer dolly as another option. All of these are less expensive than the $200 adder for the wagon wheel cart mod at Lang. I also don't feel convinced that the Lang mod was the best for me.
I will probably get a small winch to help load with for safety reasons. I think that is cheap for the hand crank model.
BayouRouge

Here are links to the HF caster and trailer dolly I referred to.

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-pneumatic-swivel-caster-42485.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-pneumatic-swivel-caster-42485.html
Wood River BBQ Team

BayouRouge wrote:
Here are links to the HF caster and trailer dolly I referred to.

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-pneumatic-swivel-caster-42485.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-pneumatic-swivel-caster-42485.html


I'm not sure if the trailer dolly will work. I'd need to install a hitch and I'm not sure if the dolly wheels will clear the steel caster. I could remove the ball and use the flat side to lift the rig but I'd have to figure a way to hold it in place --"U" bolts would work.

I like the caster idea better. It's chaper and can be mounted with "U" bolts. The main reason I like the caster is I like to keep the nose of my unit about 3/4 of a bubble above horizontal -- it aids the draft - and I think a 5" caster or 6' will work plus it's a perm fix. The frame the casters are attached to is "L" shape so I may have to add a small solid piece of steel to support the "U" bolts.

Thank you for solving my problem
BayouRouge

Yes the dolly will take more work and mods to than the casters. You would have to construct a frame protruding out to give clearance and may be use a pin instead of the ball. Mounting a structure frame above the lower shelf does have the advantage of not interfering with the existing stuff. I have to wait to actually see the smoker.

I like the caster option as they are cheaper and more permanent. I don't understand the U Bolt mounting you refer to as most casters have a plate or pin to mount with. I think a caster that has a wide tire is best. That is why I like the 8" pneumatic but I believe you can find them in 6". Northern Tool, Graingers, and Castercity.com have many options. If you use too large a caster then it will cause interference with the lower shelf causing it to be modified.
Wood River BBQ Team

BayouRouge wrote:
Yes the dolly will take more work and mods to than the casters. You would have to construct a frame protruding out to give clearance and may be use a pin instead of the ball. Mounting a structure frame above the lower shelf does have the advantage of not interfering with the existing stuff. I have to wait to actually see the smoker.

I like the caster option as they are cheaper and more permanent. I don't understand the U Bolt mounting you refer to as most casters have a plate or pin to mount with. I think a caster that has a wide tire is best. That is why I like the 8" pneumatic but I believe you can find them in 6". Northern Tool, Graingers, and Castercity.com have many options. If you use too large a caster then it will cause interference with the lower shelf causing it to be modified.


When you receive your unit you'll see that the 2 caster base plates, which have 4 holes each, are tack welded to cross member. I could tack weld the new caster to the cross member but I want to see how it functions before I do so. In the meantime, I'm going to buy two threaded "U" bolts. The "U" bolts will go over the cross member, through the 4 holes on the base plate and will be bolted.  It will make more sense when you see it on your unit. It won't interfer with the lower shelf.
BayouRouge

I understand now how you are securing the new caster with the U Bolts.
Do you feel that a 5 or 6 inch caster will not rasie the left end too high? I know you want to elevate the end a little to have the smoke and heat travel uphill.

You seem to have a reasonable plan. Let me know how it works.
Wood River BBQ Team

BayouRouge wrote:
I understand now how you are securing the new caster with the U Bolts.
Do you feel that a 5 or 6 inch caster will not rasie the left end too high? I know you want to elevate the end a little to have the smoke and heat travel uphill.

You seem to have a reasonable plan. Let me know how it works.


I need the overall height of the caster to be about 5.75" plus a little so the 6" is probably to big. The 5" might do it -- I'll have to measure at the store. Like everything in life, I might have to fool around to get something to work. I'm leaving shortly on a RV trip so I'll mess with it when I return.
Wood River BBQ Team

I need the overall height of the caster to be about 5.75" plus a little so the 6" is probably to big. The 5" might do it -- I'll have to measure at the store. Like everything in life, I might have to fool around to get something to work. I'm leaving shortly on a RV trip so I'll mess with it when I return.[/quote]

A caster setup like Harbor Freight # 90999 would be a good choice. It's too small but one like it in the proper size would be easier to install. I'd just drill a hole in the cross member and wouldn't need "U" bolts. I'll have to do some shopping around.
BayouRouge

I messed up on the link to the trailer dolly.
This would require more work to fabricate a means of attaching to the cart. I would look at some way to use only when needed and use the regular casters other times. For me I only need this occasionally.

http://www.harborfreight.com/600-...avy-duty-trailer-dolly-60533.html

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